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    First gas forge build please help me across the line

    HI, my name is Dan first post in here, I've recently taken the step over from coal to a gas forge, I've got a forge kit for the 9kg gas bottle style forge and have followed the YouTube video from one of the gameco crew, it all went smooth enough though some things were not covered and now I'm hoping someone could help me trouble shoot and get up and running.

    In regards to the build my kit came with a fire brick but not mention of this in the video, I assumed it must be for the floor so I have inserted it for the floor over the kaowool then sealed it all in with the satanite which I mixed with water by feel, again had no info on this. Now I will spray the sides and top of the kaowool with the supplied rigidizer. Does this add up for you guys?

    now I'm actually wanting to fire it up but I can't get any gas flow into the burner? The gas flows fine from regulator and out the hose but soon as I connect the actual burner a cant get any flow at all? Am I missing something very basic here? Been playing around with this over past 2 days now not sure what I'm missing. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

    Attached is a pic of where im at with the gas flow set up, I placed this all here just to make it easy to see the connections for photo.




    Thanks found the problem,

    The burner came fully blocked, fired it up this morning, I'm really happy with this set up and glad I went this way and didn't buy a new one, the kit and video made this much easier and saved me a lot of time on the build. Thank you
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    The fire brick is for a door not the floor. there should have been enough castable refractory to cast the floor.
    Yes spray the inside with ridgidiser.
    will need pics of your burner setup.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BSG View Post
    The fire brick is for a door not the floor. there should have been enough castable refractory to cast the floor.
    Yes spray the inside with ridgidiser.
    will need pics of your burner setup.
    Oh thanks, well there's a fire brick in the floor now, is this going to affect performance? I kept the cut out of kaowool which I sprayed with rigidizer was thinking to heat it and use this as a door?

    Thank you kindly for this fast response I'll go take some pics to post of set up cheers

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    Hi thank you again for your reply, I have attached a photo to my original post, any further assistants would be great. Cheers Dan

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    both the ball valves are open so you should have gas to your burner.
    Best thing would be to call Gameco in the morning.

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    I'd make sure that you either fit a flashback arrester or make sure that the regulator you're using has a flash back arresting feature. VERY important thing that most forge builders don't realize is the most important safety feature of a homemade gas forge.
    The hands that build can tear down too!!

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    You don't need a flashback arrestor on an LPG forge. In fact it will not do anything but waste your money

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    Quote Originally Posted by BSG View Post
    You don't need a flashback arrestor on an LPG forge. In fact it will not do anything but waste your money
    Apart from it being a health and saftey issue on an unregulated gas burning device you might want to look into what the laws are in your state. I say the following with the utmost respect to you. That opinion is not only misleading but frankly reckless.
    I say this because oops I guess he must have done something wrong for that to have happened isn't good enough after the fact.
    There are people on here that don't understand the basics. Surely common sense should prevail.
    Heres an excerpt from a site that covers both "casual" LPG use as well as welding grade reasons that you really should educate yourself before making a severe blanket statement like this one BSG as it WILL lull people into a false sense of security and the makings of being LAX around gas. I'm not only very experienced in dealing with and building (the safest possible) gas forges and making the user safe even if a fatal error were to occur.
    If the page attached is not enough to make you see my position I can give you a stack of cases, causes, and Aust. Standards that relate DIRECTLY to this being a paramount feature in home built (especially first time) gas burning forges as well as a good idea so we don't see anyone reading the forge section from ending up on the news.
    Flashback Arrestors
    again I don't mean for this to be of any offence to you personally in any way!! Please don't take this in anyway personally!!!
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    I'm not only very experienced in dealing with and building (the safest possible) gas forges and making the user safe even if a fatal error were to occur.
    Love to see one of your forges.
    With the exception of a single gas forge used by Barry Gardner that I built there is not one forge that is legal in Australia.

    Had a good read through your link and it deals with LPG/ OXY systems. the key being the addition of oxy. An lpg forge does not use OXY and does not need a flashback arrestor.
    To date I've built over 150 forges how many have you built????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Forge builder View Post
    I can give you a stack of cases, causes, and Aust. Standards that relate DIRECTLY to this being a paramount feature in home built (especially first time) gas burning forges
    I am calling you out. Name one. Which standard, which clause. Let's go. Also any case, anywhere in the world where an LP Gas system has flashed back. Ever. This does not include welding systems that combine with oxygen and of course flashback Arrestors are indeed mandatory and essential.

    I mean no offence either, so don't take this personally.

    You are wrong, your information is poor and poorly interpreted with little or no knowledge of the properties of LP Gas, it's flame speed and limits of flammability in systems and installations. Further, to imply that there are Australian standards that allow the home building of forges is false and misleading.

    The internet is full of people who profess to know tons about things they in fact have no idea about. I am waiting for you to provide some references so we can see what you really know.
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