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    more on the Rudiger Roll aka Fire Roll

    Until recently I had never heard of this type of friction fire method (and I thought I had seen almost every type as I have been interested in the subject of fire for a long time) and this guy seems to make it look easy. I am yet to try it but as soon as I do I will post here with the results.

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    I got it to work yesterday. Once I used the proper materials (ash and 100% cotton balls) I got it to smoke and form an ember very easily. I had tried sugar and sand instead of ash but that was a non-starter. The problem of course, like all forms of fire making when you are working with an ember (like the bow and drill or flint and steel with char cloth etc) is having the right tinder bundle ready and getting the ember to actually ignite your tinder into a flame. I always find that the most challenging part. All things considered though, this was a far better method than the bow and drill because it took infinitely less effort and time to get a fire going.
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    I totally agree Steve, preparation is the key, have everything ready to go before you start on the actual ember making.

    The problem that is holding me back at the moment is the fact I can't have fires in my suburban backyard (without cooking something) as the neighbors dislike the smoke (and have complained to council about it)
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    I know what you mean Dean. Tokyo isn't really the kind of place you can go starting fires in your backyard (in our case, small courtyard). I just got it to the point of flame and put it out so as not to cause dramas. In any case, I'm sure you will have no problem getting it to work next time you go out bush. It really is as easy as they make it look on all the videos on YouTube.
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    It seems like a good method for a wood stove in a cabin, rather than as much of one for traveling, but every skill is worth knowing. I might have to see about giving it a crack this week, I might have some free time. Any experiments I should try?

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    just more feedback as to whether you succeeded/ease of method etc mate, I will be giving this a go I just need to find the time.
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    adding more info to the OP

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