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    Top brand names made in China !!

    Ok so i dint know a lot about factory knives but a friend told me that most of the good name brands have moved there production to China ,but still charge top dollar ,is this true ? and if it is whats stopping the Chinese from copying all the stuff at the exact same quality. A sad state of corporate greed

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    What brands specifically?
    I will say however I have no issue with where something is made and nor should you, consider a product on its merit not its country of origin

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    Its the price ! if something is made in lets say the US you factor in materials and wages ,Fair ? when its made in with 3rd world wages BUT you still have to pay the US price that's my issue , not that its made in china most of my tooling is made in china but the price reflects that
    Benchmade, Boker, spyderco he mentioned others but i cant remember sorry

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    Many of the big companies make lines of items in China.
    Many are very honest about what they do. For instance, Boker make stuff in Germany, Argentina & China. Mostly it is very plain where the knives are made, but sometimes it is a confusing mix of parts made in one place, assembled in another. Spyderco make it pretty obvious, I think. These companies tend to price things accordingly.
    Fallkniven do a similar thing: designed in Europe, but clearly labelled made in Japan.

    Some companies try to be opaque. Certain countries have laws that allow this, & one just has to educate oneself.

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    I hear what you're saying @Sawdoc; as a consumer, you are fully entitled to your opinion as to perceived value of a product, and country of manufacture has a big effect on this.

    For example, we like to support "Australian Made", we know this will often cost more but helps the Country and creates jobs. That's not racist, it is a case of "perceived value". If we are looking at a watch, we'd like to get Swiss Made (yes, it will cost more). Likewise, we'd like our perfumes and Champagne made in France, mechanical things from Germany, fashion from Italy etc etc. This is our right as a consumer and again, perceived values govern our purchases. Let no-one tell you that you are being racist etc. You are only exercising your opinion!

    Now, as to your question about knife manufacturers, as stated above, a lot of US and European companies now have a budget line "made in China" and true, some brands have moved there entirely like Schrade (this is mainly due to the US company going under and brand being bought by Chinese manufacturer). There are also some excellent quality brands that are proudly made in China with proprietary designs (eg Reate) and these are fetching prices on par or even more expensive than their US counterparts. Free market and laws of supply and demand determine retail prices, so it's up to individual consumer to decide whether they are happy to purchase these products at these prices.

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    If its clearly labeled its not quite as big a deal as long as its priced accordingly , i hate the old " i put one screw in it so its made hear" trick (sorry a personal issue ,import all the parts from china assemble hear but boss still plonks the made in Aus sticker and charges the same makes heaps more profit, puts off most of his staff then gets himself a new supercar ).a lot of companies in lots of industry's do this
    like you say ill just have to educate myself when im in the market for something new

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    Quote Originally Posted by KnifeKnut View Post
    I hear what you're saying @Sawdoc; as a consumer, you are fully entitled to your opinion as to perceived value of a product, and country of manufacture has a big effect on this.

    For example, we like to support "Australian Made", we know this will often cost more but helps the Country and creates jobs. That's not racist, it is a case of "perceived value". If we are looking at a watch, we'd like to get Swiss Made (yes, it will cost more). Likewise, we'd like our perfumes and Champagne made in France, mechanical things from Germany, fashion from Italy etc etc. This is our right as a consumer and again, perceived values govern our purchases. Let no-one tell you that you are being racist etc. You are only exercising your opinion!

    Now, as to your question about knife manufacturers, as stated above, a lot of US and European companies now have a budget line "made in China" and true, some brands have moved there entirely like Schrade (this is mainly due to the US company going under and brand being bought by Chinese manufacturer). There are also some excellent quality brands that are proudly made in China with proprietary designs (eg Reate) and these are fetching prices on par or even more expensive than their US counterparts. Free market and laws of supply and demand determine retail prices, so it's up to individual consumer to decide whether they are happy to purchase these products at these prices.

    Aren't we lucky to live in a country where we are free to make these choices?!
    you are dead on quality is paramount to the price your willing to pay ! ,i have no issue with made in China or India or wherever
    as long as you know what your getting ,ie your miss might be pissed if the bottle of french perfume you got her from the market smells like warm shit

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    One factor with Germany I have learned is "Germany" means nothing. "Solingen" however is massively protected.
    Try to look at a company's whole line. Often the top range will proudly state "made in ..." but the bottom line neglects to mention such things. Very suspicious.
    Be critical & make a judgement, it's your money.

    Some particular instances are well documented. For example, "Laguiole" no longer means the knife is French, let alone made traditionally in the Laguiole region.

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    Look into the brands mentioned,
    Spyderco for example print where the knife was made on the blade.

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    Personally when it comes to making a knife purchase, the country of origin is just as important as the materials used etc. I know that "made in US" doesn't automatically mean that it will be 100% quality or visa versa, if it's made in China doesn't mean the quality will be crap. I believe anyone can have issues with QC, but I think companies should be upfront and transparent! You shouldn't have to go looking and researching, but sadly most times you do.

    Having said that, I often find that companies/makers that have nothing to hide, put this information loud and proud on their websites. When you have to go digging, you often find the buried dog...
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