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    Question Is this an Australian Army Stiletto?

    Hi Guys

    This listing was brought to my attention recently by several collectors. It appeared on a well known Internet Auction site.

    I'm interested to see what the members here think of this listing and how accurate they believe it is.

    Would you add this knife to your collection?

    Regards Dutchy


    Australian Army Commando Dagger Sykes Fairbairn Stiletto Knife

    Starting bid:AU $999.00

    Australian Army Commando Dagger Sykes Fairbairn Stiletto Knife.
    No markings visible.
    Nickel plating to blade.
    Probably made by Greg steel Melbourne
    Blade is super sharp, the steel slightly flexible as a good blade of this length should be like about a 5mm deviation when you press on the tip. Of course it immediately springs back indicating that it has been expertly tempered.
    Condition is Used.

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    John, I don't why your asking us. Your the expert.

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    Hi there Dutchy
    Quick answer, No I don't think it is.
    Slightly longer answer, I think its trying to be the love child of a FS and a AAS.
    Blade looks like a short version of a FS, handle looks like a Gregsteel AAS and I have no Idea what the guard is supposed to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by windsor302 View Post
    John, I don't why your asking us. Your the expert.
    For edification and entertainment purposes!

    While I have some knowledge in this area because it is my field of interest, I am far from being an expert.
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    Looks like a Theater made knife to me ??

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    The knife and sheath look to be made to a reasonable quality standard. I haven't seen that style sheath for either the FS or AAS.
    I don't think I would pay the asking price for it.

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    Exclamation Theatre knife

    Hi Guys

    I'm with Vittorio with this one. A so called Theatre made knife. An old hand made knife that might have been made for WW2.

    It looks nothing like an Australian Army Stiletto. I suspect that the Fairbairn Sykes was the inspiration for this knife.

    While it has been made to a reasonable standard as Doug has pointed out, I can't see it as a product of any of the known makers. It is absolutely nothing like any Greg Steel knife that I am aware of. I think that comment is just padding to try and make a silk purse out of a sows ear.

    I am sure there is a place for it in a collection of Theatre knives, especially if it has provenance.

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    About five years ago a woman came into work with a rolled up piece of flannel and said 'can you get rid of these old knives?' The boss explained that we didn't sell second hand but the bloke down the front might be interested......when she dumped them on the counter and unrolled the shitty piece of sheet my eyes certainly opened up.....Four of these complete with knocked about sheathes.....they opened up even more when she said she didn't want anything for them she just didn't want them around her son and the tip was there next home(should've mentioned she had just lost her husband).Lucky for her(not so for me) I sent her a few shops away to a bloke who knows this stuff.....appears she was sitting on a virtual treasure trove of collected war stuff,,,,,,a lot of which would have ended up at the tip.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dutchy357 View Post
    A so called Theatre made knife. An old hand made knife that might have been made for WW2.

    I am sure there is a place for it in a collection of Theatre knives, especially if it has provenance.

    Dutchy
    Seams like a reasonable classification until you think; well which theatre of WW2 did they have access to lathes and nickel plating facilities between battles?

    I’ve seen a lot of WW2 improvised combat knives they vary from a crudely fashioned blade rapped in a rag or rope handle, fashioned in the field by an infantry soldier, to quite well made articles fashioned in machine shops on capital ships for the navy blokes to trade with marines for genuine battlefield souvenirs.
    More common is the cottage industry knife made in the home front for private sale to soldiers on leave, many of these were made from blades that came out of the backdoor of Sheffield factories in lunch boxes.
    My assessment of this knife, a post war Sheffield SF blade and sheath assembled for ebay sale.
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    Looks a lot like my POS made in Pakistan one .

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